Sunday, October 31, 2010

Finally, PROOF that god does not exist !

I present only one of many proofs that there can not ever be a god-

I assume that god is defined as an entity that is essentially all knowing i.e. omniscient.

Einsteins Theory of Relativity (ToR) clearly proves that information can not be transferred at a speed faster than light. Maximum speed of information transfer is the speed of light itself (300000 Km/sec). It should be stated here that the ToR has been validated by much empirical evidence. In fact every GPS device, or satellite based cable / dth TV service is proof of ToR since all satellites have to employ relativistic corrections.

The universe as we all know is billions of light years across. One light year is that distance that light travels in one year.

Now if god were an existing entity in the universe, at any single instant of time, it would not ever be possible for it to know what is happening in the other end of the universe. Simply because information traveling at a speed of light would take billions of years to reach him. In fact if god were to be here on earth, it would require him 4 years before he knew of an event that took place today on Proxima Centauri. And it would take him 2 million years to hear or know of some one praying to him today in the Andromeda Galaxy (the galaxy nearest to our own home galaxy - the milky way!

So omniscience is just not a trait any one single entity could posses. But since a god must essentially be omniscient, it must there fore follow that god can not exist.

Ah I know the counter - god is omnipresent. Well then he would be like a dinosaur, whose brain required over a minute to realize what was happening to its own tail. Since that was the time required for information to reach from his tail to his head!
Quite dumb for a god.

OK I recently posted above PROOF on an open forum, hoping it would attract critical scrutiny. It sure did and some have been most valuable. One dude with the nick 'ngali' observed as follows:

"But if god is the alpha and creator then he's set all things in motion and knows their outcomes before they occur.
He doesn't have to be 'informed' of happenings in different places. He's already planned it to happen.

Being the architect who has pre-planned all things and set the universe in motion knowing the outcome allows a diety to be considered omniscient without having to rely on ToR at all. He knows it already.
The question becomes one about computing power rather than transmission of information"


My reply:

Your point seems valid at first. Prior knowledge - If he knew (cause he planned) everything already at or before the instant of creation. He can later still be omniscient even as the ToR remains valid and the universe expands and eventually spans billions of light years.

BUT HERE IS THE COMEBACK

If creation here refers to the creation of all things in the universe, then this god (with prior knowledge of all things), exists outside of the universe and before the first instant of creation (if there was one).

Universe is defined as an entity that includes all things in existence.

This theory accepts within itself that such a god (with prior knowledge of all things), exists outside of the universe.

Existing outside of the universe is self contradictory since universe is as defined above.

In effect your theory is saying that god did not exist, by pushing it out side the universe, at or before the moment of creation.

Hence there CAN be no god at or before the time of creation,

And the ToR (really the SToR) won't let it exist afterward.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Do you not see the irony here? I'm kinda of puzzled, whether the author of this article a real person or a robot.
I don't think it's up to anyone to judge what people's posts should be about. Why not allow everyone to just say what they want (in designated threads, ofcourse)?
I'm looking for an expert in this field for some off-site work. Anyone interested?
This page rocks, keep up the good work.

God may have made man first, but there is always a rough draft before a final copy.

anonymously famous said...

I believe "God" is a term which was made by the powerful and the knowledgeable in order to show the commoners fear. Fear and money are the only motives which make man work. For fear, "God" needed to have extra powers like omniscience or/and omnipresent. Otherwise people would cheat.The thing is humans like to believe in some kind of fix-it-all power or person above them. That makes them less afraid of the failure. That also keeps them from doing something ethically wrong. Though going overboard with anything is mostly, if not always, bad. Yet God at least had a good motive.

So it is really strange that you have taken into consideration the literal meaning of God when he/she is just a character of the human mind.